In this episode, Adam Stoker sits down with Ryan Jones, Head of Client Impact at Brand Revolt, to unpack how both marketers and agencies need to evolve for the future. Ryan shares his journey from SEO writer to executive leader, talks about how saying “yes” to new challenges and speaking up (even when it’s uncomfortable) accelerated his career, and explains why tomorrow’s marketers must be strategic, tech-enabled generalists—not single-channel specialists. Adam and Ryan also dive into the trap of vanity metrics, why “set it and forget it” annual plans no longer work, and how Brand Revolt is shifting from a tactics-based ad agency to a true strategic partner through initiatives like CMO Jam–style workshops and deeper stakeholder collaboration. If you’re trying to stay relevant in a rapidly changing marketing world, this conversation is a must-listen.

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